Alright, so the worlds most prolific serial killer is caught and goes to trial for it, but on the day before the verdict comes out he gets kicked in the head by a horse and loses all his memory… Can the jury still find him guilty and punish him if he doesnt remember the crimes? The answer is yes, he still did it! He still killed people… And thats why Tony had every right to want to kill bucky. Just bc someone didn’t remember and has removed themselves from that identity, doesn’t mean they didnt do that shit. thanks for coming to my ted talk
Alright… So i see some people are bringing up that he didnt have any memories when he committed the crimes, so we’ll change the scenario… Normal guy gets kicked in the head one day, loses his memory and gets taken in by some dude who keeps telling him to kill ppl so he does whenever the guy that found him tells him to. One day he gets kicked in the head again and regains his memories and regrets killing while with the other guy… Did he still do that shit and do the victims still have a chance to be mad? Yes! Do they still have the right to want justice? Yea! Manipulation does not equal innocence, and bucky fans gotta realize that
Neither one of these takes do Tony any favors and mostly are just moronic.
BUCKY WAS TORTURED AND BRAINWASHED AND MIND WIPED FOR A CENTURY – IN THIS CASE, IT TURNS OUT MANIPULATION EQUALS INNOCENCE.
Let me scenario you.
Normal guy is captured in war, normal guy is ripped to shreds, normal guy’s memories are destroyed, normal guy is tortured, normal guy breaks, normal guy does not even understand he is human anymore, normal guy understands fear and torment and pain, normal guy does as he’s ordered. Normal guy no longer exists. The soldier is a thing, the soldier is pliable and bent and made to do things he can’t comprehend because comprehension has fled. The soldier is a glorified gun. The soldier is the only thing until Steve and the bridge and even then barely.
What, you think “order through pain,” thinly-veneered-Nazi-stand-in-Hydra, whispered lullabies in his ear telling him to kill people? You think it was one man patting his head and offering him a treat. One person’s force of will against a monstrous organization who glories in pain trying to break him to pieces, for 80 years. Have you even seen the Hydra flashback scenes? Would you blame a feral abused dog for biting someone his 50 abusive masters pointed to. Because that’s your scenario.
Tony has a right to be mad, to seek justice, maybe even to try to kill Bucky (although if you believe Tony thinks you should answer death with death, maybe you don’t know him very well, in addition to completely misunderstanding Bucky.) In fact, no one believes in Tony’s right to that more than Bucky does. Bucky agrees with Tony, Bucky thinks he should be blamed and hurt and punished.
/NONE OF THIS/ CHANGES THE FACT THAT BUCKY IS INNOCENT.
And all of this confirms Steve intentness on protecting him.
Step one: let him hide or shy away from you if he wants to. He wouldn’t let me touch him for a couple days after we got back from the shelter. His comfort was more important than me getting to touch him.
Step two: make yourself nonthreatening. In my case this meant being very quiet, bringing food and lying down on the ground within his eyesight as an invitation to investigate.
Step three: watch his body language and don’t do things that make him uncomfortable. Turns out my cat often bit when he was overstimulated so I made sure not to overwhelm him.
Step four: draw lines, but not with brute force. Even though his biting wasn’t meant to hurt, I wanted to make sure he wouldn’t injure anyone in the future. So I decided when he bit me, I’d yelp “ow!” And then withdraw all physical contact for a few minutes, sometimes leaving the room. Now he never bites, but sometimes he puts his teeth on my hand and then thinks better of it.
Step five: provide a good outlet for destructive behaviors. Aka PLAY WITH HIM, SEVERAL TIMES A DAY.
Step six: be patient.
Step seven: get lucky and somehow pick up the best cat in the entire shelter. I don’t know how it happened but he’s a godsend. He’s literally cuddled me out of a panic attack. We both really needed each other.
this is basically it??? for any animal. and human. both of you get to set boundaries for what you’re comfortable with, both of you respect those boundaries, and the goal is not ‘oh i get to pet the kitty’ or ‘oh i made the parrot talk’ but ‘we have a good solid relationship where we understand each other and are both happy’???
also re: teens sitting around with their tablets and smartphones
like, if a kid can access the internet (with some privacy still) while also sitting in the same room as their parents, honestly that’s better and more social than what I did as a teenager, which was hole up in my room at my desktop computer that I couldn’t move anywhere else in the house
mostly what I see from the teens in my family is they will sit and scroll through their phone, but if something interesting starts happening, or a new person enters the room, or they see something cool they want to share, they look up and interact again, because they’re sitting right there with everyone else.
that is waaaay more social than 2002 me, hunched over my desktop for hours and only seeing my mom in passing when I went to microwave a burrito at 1am. way, way more social.
My whole family does this now. We’re all in the same room, but each on a phone, tablet, or laptop. Certain poop heads will shake their heads at how technology is dividing us.
But
Like
What do they think families have done for since ever? Talk constantly while playing educational board games every evening? No.
They’d each be reading, or sewing, or writing letters or some shit, and mostly sat quietly near each other but not bothering each other.
yes this
It reminds me of the whole “omg people on trains used to TALK to each other” argument. No, they didn’t. They read the newspaper or stared straight ahead avoiding eye contact.
People have been finding reasons not to talk to each other for centuries.
Young girls really are pressured now more than ever to be seen as beautiful and sexy and perfect like IG models and whatever the fuck…..like that’s why you see “me at 14 vs 14 year old girls today” posts……….we didn’t have this constant stream of content like they do…..content telling us to be perfect and to have perfect clothes and sharp eyeliner wings that look photoshopped and shit like that….I mean it’s always been there but not like this…and while I think girls should be able to dress however they want and do whatever they want…..you have to take into consideration the fact that this all stems from a toxic culture where women have to be perfect and beautiful…now at younger and younger ages….and it’s really gross…and the media continues to sexualize and like…make young girls seem older and more appealing than they actually are idk the whole thing makes me so uncomfortable and it’s only going to get worse
And the wildest thing is, people will still try and justify it with the “there’s always been girls that dress older than they are!” argument. Which is true. But it was never the norm. Pre social media, most young girls were allowed be young girls. Here’s Miley Cyrus, Selena Gomez and Lindsay Lohan at 14/15 in 2001-2007. They were arguably the biggest young stars of the time but this is how they presented
They aren’t being styled to look leagues older than they are. They’re allowed to just be their own age and look their own age. Now, here’s Millie Bobbie Brown at 13 in 2018, Veronika Bonell at 15/16 in 2017, Skai Jackson at 13 in 2015, and Caitlin Carmichael at 13 in 2017.
There is a deep problem in our society that this is what people are styling children to look like. They don’t look like children, they look like young adults. They could wear these exact same looks in 10 years and they wouldn’t be questioned because they’re dressed and made up to present as adults. This is what is presented as normal for young girls, this is the image they’re told is the “right” one, the one they should aspire to.
There’s nothing wrong with girls – or boys – wanting to be pretty. But there is a problem with young girls being constantly told that pretty for them means looking over 21 at 13.
"Technically, you killed him." 